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Sim
發表時間: 2005-03-10 23:23
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2004-04-28
來自:
發表數: 1439
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
以前有聽歌學英文,
家陣有睇英文學聽歌。
Miss, 加油呀!
" I played two songs "中的played是『播』還是『彈』?


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Alice
發表時間: 2005-03-10 23:38
已經開始識到一些青韻民歌好友。
註冊日: 2004-01-07
來自:
發表數: 39
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
Sim,

是播放歌曲罷了。我小時曾學彈鋼琴,並為班和學校伴奏,但已十多年沒碰過鋼琴了,說起來也有點可惜。
Sim
發表時間: 2005-03-10 23:51
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2004-04-28
來自:
發表數: 1439
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
如果學過琴, 我諗再彈返都唔會好難


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Sim
發表時間: 2005-03-10 23:58
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2004-04-28
來自:
發表數: 1439
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
啱啱喺另一個網上睇到Tears in Heaven中譯歌詞,
唔知你有冇用.
我諗如果叫d學生試下翻譯, 睇下佢地對原歌詞有幾了解都幾得意:

Would you know my name
If I saw you in heaven
Would it be the same
If I saw you in heaven
I must be strong and carry on
Cause I know I don't belong here in heaven

Would you hold my hand
If I saw you in heaven
Would you help me stand
If I saw you in heaven
I'll find my way through night and day
Cause I know I just can't stay here in heaven

Time can bring you down
Time can bend your knees
Time can break your heart
Have you begging please, begging please

Beyond the door there's peace I'm sure
And I know there'll be no more tears in heaven

(譯文)
你還記得我的名字嗎

如果我在天堂遇見你

你我還能像從前一樣嗎

如果我在天堂遇見你

我必須堅強、堅持下去

因爲我知道我並不屬於天堂


你會握我的手嗎

如果我在天堂遇見你

你會扶我一把嗎

如果我在天堂遇見你

我會找到度日的方式

因爲我知道我不能留在天堂


時間使人消沈

時間使人屈服

時間使人傷心

你是否向它求饒

在那道門後,必定是一片祥和

而我知道將不再有人淚灑天堂


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RodFoo
發表時間: 2005-03-11 09:31
青韻是我家!
註冊日: 2004-01-01
來自: N.T.
發表數: 682
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
Well done Alice!

Very nice to know that hard work not ignored. Hope they'll come to us. Don't worry about if they stay or not. Consistancy is very difficult. It's all up to them. If you look around, there are lots of grownups who claim they are folk music lovers but have never attended any sort of this kind of clubs due to convenience or other reasons.

Again, as Frankie says Bravo!!

PPM
發表時間: 2005-03-11 18:07
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2003-12-10
來自:
發表數: 1352
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
Alice, 有用得著在下我的地方, 請通知我吧


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Qiang's 123
發表時間: 2005-03-11 21:15
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註冊日: 2003-12-20
來自:
發表數: 464
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
PPM 寫道:
Alice, 有用得著在下我的地方, 請通知我吧



Strongly agree with PPM's opinion!

Dear Alice, if I can help, don't hestitate to contact me.


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Qiang

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不受干預;沒有挑剔
拋開怨恨;只有祝福

chrishui
發表時間: 2005-03-12 01:29
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2003-12-21
來自: 音樂村
發表數: 1239
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
引文:

Alice 寫道:
Just want to share with you what I did with my students today. I played two songs to my Form 2 and Form 4 classes respectively. The songs are Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven" and Raye Collin's "Love, Me". The reason why I chose these songs was that the lyrics contain a number of grammar items I have covered with my students in class.

I didn't expect my students to be too excited about the songs, but I just tried playing the songs to let them learn in a relaxing way. I gave them the lyrics, and then played the songs. The students were exceptionally attentive today. They listened to the songs carefully. Some of them even tried to sing, although most of them had never heard of the songs before. Some of them had heard of "Tears in Heaven", but not "Love, Me". When I explained the lyrics and the story to them, most of them were really interested.

Before I left the classroom, I mentioned the Folk Club I have been working on, even though the songs I played are not folk songs. Although there wasn't an enthusiastic response, a few students nodded their heads, and asked me about the details of the gatherings, such as date, time, location etc. After the lessons, some students came up to the teacher's desk and told me that they would like to join. These two songs have brought around 10 new members to my Folk Club, and I'm really pleased to see that.

In fact, I'm sure that there are always students who like folk songs and I can always invite new members to my club. However, I'm not too confident to make them stay, give them a sense of belonging and make them enjoy singing folk songs. But with all of your encouragement and support, I will try my best to overcome the obstacles ahead.



Alice,

加油啊﹐來給你打氣哩。

whitehorse
發表時間: 2005-03-12 10:16
青韻典堂級民歌好友
註冊日: 2003-12-13
來自: 八十年代的青韻民歌組
發表數: 2030
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
好佩服Alice為推動香港下一代民歌運動作出的努力,其實妳可以嘗試向妳的學生介紹及推廣一些關於民歌的活動,例如可以推介他們看看青韻民歌網及其他民歌網站,亦可以鼓勵他們參與青韻的House Party及其他有關活動,令他們可以親身體驗及分享一下,一齊唱和聽民歌的樂趣。
另外如果學校資源及人力許可的話,可以和妳的學生一齊搞個小型的民歌音樂會,透過參與及舉辦這些活動,提高他們對民歌的興趣,籍着這些活動在校內作為民歌推廣的工作;如果時間許可的話,可以同時邀請各位民歌高手作嘉賓演出,示範一下。
以上是小弟的愚見,如有不對之處,敬請指教及更正。


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lungfoo2001
發表時間: 2005-03-12 16:26
已經開始識到一些青韻民歌好友。
註冊日: 2004-06-22
來自: boston
發表數: 21
Re: 怎樣推動香港下一代的民歌運動?﹔而將之放上間接青韻
To Alice:

如果以前推廣的方法行不通﹐大可以試試用唔同方法。
各位﹐我用了近半小時將十頁內容睇清﹐
依家我將幾樣重點放埋一齊﹐雖則其實只要兩點……

1)時代不斷變遷﹐每十年總會有一些新類型音樂面世﹐
  原本是潮流的音樂(不管是rock是pop還是folk)﹐
  都會變得有點過時。

2)汰弱留強﹐動聽的音樂必定抵得著時間巨輪﹐
  好聽的音樂必定會成為經典。

所以要推廣民歌﹐或者……將一個樂壇徹底改變﹐
就要針對呢兩點去做﹐否則一定無功而還。

其實大家一直都為何謂民歌而頭痛﹐
格林美既標準其實都唔可以完全信得過﹐
以S&G的《The Sound of Slience》為例﹐
S&G被世人當為Soft Rock﹐但係首歌格林美就當做Pop﹔
Don McClean的《American Pie》﹐
內容其實係講五六十年代美國歷史﹐有資格算作Folk﹐
但係格林美又係當佢做pop﹔
再唔係用Bob Dylan做例子﹐
佢話就話係將民搖曲風帶上主流樂壇﹐folk之名一定有﹐
但係係allmusic.com﹐佢被當作Rock……甚麼回事﹖

基於咁多『唔協調』﹐可以得出一個結論﹐
有好多野都係好主觀既﹐就算權位既格林美都係主觀。
PPM話自己係folk﹐點解又會俾格林美話係pop呢﹖
與其徙時間去研究點分類﹐不如索性將所有野簡化﹐
以歌手為準﹐佢唱邊一類style居多﹐就將佢列入該類。
所以林一峰曲風需然曲風有點像folk﹐但佢仍然屬於pop﹐
林志美唱下pop﹐但係佢係像folk起家﹐
除非佢自己親口承認話轉型﹐否則大家都係當佢係folk吧﹖
如果硬要分類﹐頂多在歌曲加上一點備註不就行嗎﹖

至於如何推廣……老實說﹐用上老歌會很困難。
與其這樣﹐不如先落實何謂民歌的定義﹐
再創作一首全新的民謠歌曲方算實際。
以我既標準既話﹐詞內提及一些生活的瑣碎事﹐
曲風感覺清新﹐就可以是一首民歌﹐
但更重要的﹐是演唱這一首歌的人有一個鮮明的民歌形象。
否則就兩頭唔到岸﹐事倍功半。

例子﹖我這次用Norah Jones吧。
她的曲風是jazz﹐但卻又很重pop味道﹐
所以即使內容有點民謠味﹐也只能說是jazz-pop。
怕且大家未必會完全同意吧﹖
再拿S&G做例(沒辦法﹐他們是我的第二最愛歌手)﹐
有一首歌叫《Leaves That Are Green》﹐
這首歌不論曲風及內容都非常『民謠』﹐
但由於S&G本身被歸於Soft-Rock類﹐
所以連歌曲本身也列入Soft-Rock。
想翻案﹖……難矣……

所以﹐我既意見係--鼓勵新一代人多點創作﹐
多點想著新構思。
由他們新世代所創作的民歌﹐邊有可能唔『朝』。
大家可以做既﹐就係灌輸何謂民歌呢種思想﹐
與及背後描些生活意境呢種精神。
咁樣呢類音樂先有得發展。

要人接受新思想﹐總要有一套理論係背後撐著。
依家我地視為垃圾既現今樂壇﹐
背後既思想就係『要潮、要偶像、要賺錢』……等等。
唱片公司必定把這些算得很準。
所以要『治療』這個不健康的樂壇﹐就只好依樣胡廬﹐
但灌輸既訊息……當然係大家所認同的東西吧……﹖


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